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HUI Gold Stock Index Review

Each gold stock related asset class has slightly different wave patterns, but this HUI chart is also forced into a wedge, even though the wedge is a sideways pattern. That actually may be the scariest part of this setup! The HUI has a long way to go to catch up with gold, which as the experts say gold stocks will catch-up to gold in due time. I’ve heard all that before at the 2011 peak and it never worked then and it sure will not work this time.

In order for this HUI index to be in the bullish phase already then that 2013 low,  must “not” get breached by the slimmest of margins, otherwise the HUI bear market is still in progress.  The 150 HUI price level would trash that 2013 low by a wide margin, which would confirm that the bearish phase is still running.  The top trend line is the main trend and the HUI would have to bust out of that range as well. What’s next HUI 150 or HUI 225?

The bottom rising wedge can be used because the HUI is still in a small rally.  It would take very little effort to break that bottom rising wedge, so this HUI needs to send us a clear direction sooner or later. This Micky Mouse move is just not doing it for me.

In 2008 Gold, Gold stocks and all related oil futures crashed right along with the stock market so, saying that it is “Different this time”, may not work as well!

Gold stocks heading north, while oil heads south would force the Gold/HUI ratio to change in a very short time. The Gold/HUI ratio is sitting at 7.24:1 which is about average, but I think it has been hitting a ratio brick wall, since April, 1, 2018.

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HUI Gold Stock Correction Review: Will It Ever End?

Since the 2011 peak gold stocks have been grinding downward until early 2016, when suddenly gold stocks exploded and soared until mid 2016. Now the HUI is grinding sideways for over a year, but I think there is at least one more leg up to come. This 2017 sideways action shows up in many of the other gold stocks related ETFs so it’s not an isolated pattern at all.

At this time I’m working gold stocks like a big Primary degree triangle, but that will have to be adjusted if gold stocks don’t break out of their slump that they have been in.   I also looked at the ABX (Barrick) stock, which does not show this pattern, but it showed a very nice zigzag correction already completed.

I just can’t see Barrick’s stock soaring while all others are left behind so for now I will remain bullish until this HUI clears a new record high with a “C” wave bull market. “C” waves can produce some stunning moves.  Barrick also contains a Wedge or inverted Megaphone, which can be powerful signals, before the trend turns again.

We could even be heading to a “D” wave peak, so the bigger gold bullish phase is not over yet,  from my perspective.

The Gold/Hui Ratio is sitting at 7.60:1 which is more expensive than the 3:1 ratio, I have recorded. Cheap is about 10:1 so we’re not that expensive when we use gold as the measuring tool.  In zigzags the “A” wave crashes can be very straight, but then the “C” wave is choppy and travels at a slightly different angle.

In a flat type of a pattern the leading “A” wave can be very choppy, but then the trailing “C” can explode, or implode with a sheer vertical drop, depending on what side of the market we are on.

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HUI Gold Stock Index Review


At this time I’m trying a different wave count for the 4-5 year, HUI bear market. If I constantly start having to use the smallest degree on my list of 15 degree levels, then I know I may have to increase my degree level by at least one degree. I still have three degree levels left, so there is lots of room to extend with.

What I see in the HUI is a potential running flat. There is some downside wiggling room left, but in the long run this gold stock bull market is not finished. A running flat is extremely bullish and from its base it can soar in a stunning fashion.

At the 2016 bear market low, the majority of analysts were bearish. When the consensus is bearish, and the forecasts for conditions to get worse are constantly hammered home, then ask yourself, “Who is left to get out”?

The reverse happens at any major top. When the consensus of expert analysts, paint us a rosy picture for the future of gold stocks, Ask yourself, again”Who is left to get in and buy”?  At a bull market top, you have analysts shouting to the rest of the world how great the gold stock bull market is going to be. Yet the HUI crashed and burned for close to 5 years.

My saying I like to use is, “market bottoms are the breeding grounds for bull markets, and bull markets are the breeding grounds of bear markets”.

My point is that the resource markets are cyclical and if you ignore this fact, you will miss every bull market that comes along.

Rick Rule – Resources: Bear Markets are the Authors of Bull Markets – YouTube

Rick Rule understands the cycles in the gold markets, and this short 10 minute video is important to watch.

Right now the Gold/HUI ratio sits at 7.10:1 from a base of 10:1. We would have to get closer to 3:1 before it starts to get very expensive.

At this time 2018 sure looks like it could be a banner year for gold related assets.

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HUI, 2000-2017 Gold Stock Review

 

Many of the other gold stocks related ETFs and indices have very different wave counts. Some look more bullish while others look far more bearish. This is what diagonal wave structures can do.  The 2008 crash was not a surprise event as Steven Jon Kaplan had short positions on GDX and I tried shorting GDX as well, but got forced out several times before I gave up.  The 2008 crash showed that gold stocks “AND” the general stock markets can crash together, at least for a short period of time.

The angle of the 2008 crash assured the contrarians that another bullish phase would happen. The HUI took its sweet time about it because it sure looked like another zigzag in a bullish phase. Gold stock insiders were selling again at the 2011 top, while stock market insiders were buying across all indices that I cover. 

Sure enough, by the 2011 top the stock mania was ready to fly as gold stocks imploded in a long 4 year bear market. From the 2011 top which I use as a Cycle degree wave 3 position, the gold stock markets displayed what looks like a set of 5 waves down. Due to the diagonal nature of the decline, there could be a single zigzag during the 2013 sideways correction. 

In early 2016 the HUI hit a bottom with about a 10:1 Gold/Hui ratio from an expensive ratio of 3:1. Today the Gold/Hui ratio is 6.45:1 which is shifting a bit towards the expensive side, but it will take much more than that to kill this gold stock bull market. Not until we see a sustained expensive Gold/Hui ratio and reports of gold stock insiders selling again, will this bullish phase be ready to pop one more time. 

Even now gold stocks are not displaying a great looking potential “C” wave bull market, so we have to expect some wild moves that may surprise us. 

I show three trend lines,  and the peak of the center trend line could be closer to reality than the top trend line is.  Technically speaking, I would love to see that 2016 HUI top,  get completely retraced. It is one of the ways that will help confirm that we are still in a bullish phase correction. 

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HUI Gold Stock Review

I looked over the Barron’s gold index before I looked at the HUI. They both do not give me any great clues as to the potential location we may be at. That 2016 low was a major low as all the gold/ratios have confirmed. The 2011 to 2016 gold stock bear market fits into a 5 wave sequence better than any other sequence, so it can put us into a potentially large degree zigzag. It would also mean that no new record high can happen as zigzags cannot go above their starting point, of the correction.

I’m not happy with the HUI pattern between the February 2017 top, to the July 2017 bottom. It does not fit well into a wave 2 correction at this time. Worst case we could be heading up a “C” wave leg, which cannot break out into new record highs. Instead of a 1-2 wave count we could be in an “ABC” count just as easily. Any trend lines that I do have are there to try and box the pattern in, but at times that works about as well as trying to lock a herd of angry cattle, into a corral.

There are at least 3 other gold stock related ETFs with this same type of a pattern. In the long run I’m bullish as any Gold ratios are not anywhere near any extreme at this time. Besides, no gold stock insiders as a group has sold out, besides Steven Jon Kaplan would be one of the first to post this information when it happens. Insiders do not buy their own stocks back on a whim, nor do they ever sell on a whim. They will hold for many years if they have to, and our wave counts should never conflict with this information.

One contrarian indicator I use is the Gold/Hui ratio, which is sitting at 6.23:1 right now. Very cheap was 10:1 with very expensive being closer to 3:1. At present this does not tell us that a sudden HUI crash is going to happen any time soon. Besides, only the late comers that take big positions, will get burned if that were to happen.

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